Monday, January 12, 2015

College Basketball Rankings - 12 Jan

All three undefeated teams had struggles this week, but only one went down, with Duke's loss at NC State dropping them behind conference rival Virginia in the overall rankings. No team is projected to finish undefeated, although Gonzaga is picked to win the remainder of their games, which would put them at 30-1 entering the WCC tourney. Here are this week's full rankings:





Record
ProjRec
SOS
TW
LW
Team
Rating
W
L
W
L
Curr
All
1
1
Kentucky
-29.7285
15
0
30
1
11
32
2
3
Virginia
-25.0722
15
0
28
2
9
16
3
2
Duke
-24.9263
14
1
27
4
32
7
4
6
Gonzaga
-23.7188
16
1
30
1
76
107
5
5
North Carolina
-23.2221
12
4
24
7
3
2
6
7
Ohio State
-22.9803
13
4
25
6
79
54
7
4
Wisconsin
-22.6438
15
2
26
5
42
19
8
10
Utah
-20.5559
13
2
25
5
160
72
9
11
Villanova
-20.2192
15
1
27
4
35
34
10
8
Louisville
-19.7707
14
2
25
6
57
24
11
9
West Virginia
-19.319
14
2
24
7
34
10
12
12
Notre Dame
-18.8743
15
2
25
6
185
78
13
17
Arizona
-17.5819
14
2
25
6
72
60
14
15
Oklahoma
-17.3959
11
4
20
10
30
4
15
20
Michigan State
-17.1015
12
5
21
10
40
18
16
23
Kansas
-16.5629
13
2
22
9
2
1
17
14
Butler
-16.5629
12
5
22
9
17
21
18
19
Iowa State
-16.5354
12
2
22
8
97
17
19
18
Baylor
-16.4284
12
3
22
9
19
28
20
16
Virginia Commonwealth
-16.2892
13
3
25
6
7
48
21
21
Maryland
-15.8266
15
2
25
6
22
43
22
29
Florida
-15.0042
9
6
19
12
24
14
23
13
Texas
-14.9198
12
4
20
11
64
13
24
26
Xavier
-14.5184
11
5
20
11
49
22
25
30
Wichita State
-14.3404
14
2
25
5
140
117
26
34
Arkansas
-14.0914
13
2
24
7
152
74
27
24
Minnesota
-14.0397
11
6
20
11
111
62
28
25
Illinois
-13.8947
11
6
20
11
56
50
29
22
BYU
-13.6068
14
5
23
8
146
91
30
39
Davidson
-13.1487
11
3
22
7
163
86
31
31
Georgetown
-13.0186
10
5
18
11
8
3
32
28
South Carolina
-12.9447
9
5
18
12
107
45
33
33
Seton Hall
-12.7821
13
3
21
9
31
23
34
32
Hofstra
-12.5221
13
4
25
6
147
191
35
52
North Carolina State
-12.4521
12
5
19
12
44
20
36
36
Georgia
-12.1903
9
5
18
12
12
9
37
35
Iowa
-12.0624
11
5
19
12
66
25
38
40
Old Dominion
-12.0572
13
2
26
4
99
224
39
43
Northern Iowa
-12.0041
14
2
24
6
105
103
40
53
Providence
-11.8663
13
4
20
11
18
11
41
42
Syracuse
-11.8222
12
4
19
12
106
37
42
62
Ole Miss
-11.6943
10
5
20
11
41
49
43
27
George Washington
-11.6472
12
4
22
9
81
73
44
38
Stanford
-11.594
11
4
20
10
62
52
45
49
Oklahoma State
-11.5703
12
3
19
11
170
29
46
46
North Carolina Central
-11.5021
11
5
24
6
274
345
47
61
Dayton
-11.474
13
2
23
7
104
97
48
44
Indiana
-11.3793
12
4
20
11
132
47
49
50
Eastern Kentucky
-11.2504
10
5
22
7
212
238
50
37
Buffalo
-11.0389
11
4
23
8
20
93
51
55
Cincinnati
-10.9947
11
4
23
8
46
87
52
57
SMU
-10.5747
12
4
22
8
120
106
53
56
Connecticut
-10.5433
9
5
20
10
26
82
54
58
Purdue
-10.443
10
7
16
15
80
35
55
51
Miami (FL)
-10.3082
11
4
19
12
75
36
56
45
St. John's
-10.2571
11
4
19
12
94
39
57
41
Central Michigan
-10.1739
11
2
23
6
350
292
58
48
TCU
-10.0997
13
3
19
12
325
81
59
47
Sam Houston State
-9.74763
11
4
25
6
326
349
60
59
Texas A&M
-9.45715
9
5
18
12
33
51
61
60
Iona
-9.07709
11
5
23
8
93
167
62
54
Rhode Island
-9.0545
11
3
20
9
252
123
63
66
San Diego State
-9.04721
12
4
22
9
130
122
64
65
Vanderbilt
-8.93857
11
4
19
12
221
75
65
68
Arizona State
-8.89099
8
8
16
15
58
56
66
81
Illinois State
-8.81517
10
6
19
11
153
119
67
63
Toledo
-8.34889
9
6
19
12
82
92
68
70
Marquette
-8.33077
9
6
15
15
38
15
69
100
Alabama
-8.158
12
3
19
12
176
58
70
78
UCLA
-8.01593
10
7
17
14
15
42
71
74
William & Mary
-7.98421
9
6
19
10
195
155
72
98
Murray State
-7.92787
13
4
23
7
268
274
73
91
Louisiana Tech
-7.9272
12
4
24
7
233
265
74
72
Evansville
-7.91086
12
4
21
9
265
201
75
71
Colorado
-7.77879
9
6
16
14
92
63
76
88
Yale
-7.62421
11
6
21
10
112
127
77
69
LSU
-7.54613
12
3
19
12
191
67
78
64
Washington
-7.33763
11
4
18
12
204
79
79
85
Green Bay
-7.33026
14
3
23
7
264
242
80
83
Valparaiso
-7.22034
16
3
24
7
319
283
81
73
Oregon
-7.20946
12
4
19
12
217
84
82
76
Coastal Carolina
-7.14831
13
3
24
6
342
334
83
84
La Salle
-6.92022
9
7
17
14
21
66
84
94
UC Santa Barbara
-6.64145
8
7
19
11
158
185
85
67
Georgia State
-6.52536
10
6
21
10
183
206
86
86
Georgia Tech
-6.50993
9
6
15
15
10
5
87
93
Memphis
-6.5074
9
6
18
13
151
101
88
110
Harvard
-6.48389
10
3
20
8
244
176
89
77
Colorado State
-6.47103
15
2
24
7
189
188
90
82
UNLV
-6.46201
10
6
19
12
113
102
91
89
Wofford
-6.43034
13
4
23
8
74
141
92
80
UTEP
-6.39587
11
5
21
9
201
231
93
87
Temple
-6.38043
12
5
20
11
51
85
94
75
Charlotte
-6.2039
7
8
19
12
6
112
95
90
Boise State
-6.01203
10
6
20
11
222
211
96
79
South Carolina Upstate
-6.00917
13
4
24
7
347
350
97
104
Saint Mary's
-5.90646
13
3
20
9
240
110
98
117
Kansas State
-5.87413
9
7
13
18
55
6
99
122
Richmond
-5.70201
9
7
16
15
71
70
100
116
Nebraska
-5.63369
10
6
14
16
135
27
101
126
Michigan
-5.61548
10
6
15
15
109
44
102
111
Wake Forest
-5.57362
9
8
13
18
50
12
103
103
Northeastern
-5.47777
11
5
21
10
68
120
104
99
Stephen F Austin
-5.42689
12
3
24
7
315
329
105
121
Western Kentucky
-5.40843
10
5
20
10
228
226
106
96
Eastern Washington
-5.39977
12
4
23
8
267
305
107
113
Georgia Southern
-5.13664
10
3
21
8
343
327
108
95
Tennessee-Martin
-5.07911
9
6
18
11
220
229
109
106
Columbia
-4.99623
8
6
17
11
177
146
110
97
Pittsburgh
-4.86085
11
5
17
15
168
59
111
134
Massachusetts
-4.80393
9
7
17
14
16
69
112
109
New Mexico
-4.70324
11
5
19
11
197
144
113
105
Tennessee
-4.66798
9
5
15
15
48
26
114
92
California
-4.65522
11
6
16
15
155
71
115
138
Oregon State
-4.62727
11
4
17
13
300
104
116
101
Eastern Michigan
-4.49943
11
4
20
11
349
272
117
132
Wyoming
-4.46368
15
2
23
8
339
302
118
123
Stony Brook
-4.46355
10
7
20
11
96
223
119
107
Creighton
-4.34823
9
8
13
18
121
41
120
112
Cleveland State
-4.31939
9
9
17
14
196
181
121
128
Northwestern
-4.20914
10
6
14
17
117
40
122
131
San Francisco
-4.14681
8
10
15
15
139
118
123
140
UL Lafayette
-4.12571
10
5
20
11
340
314
124
141
South Dakota State
-4.10806
11
7
20
10
246
291
125
125
Boston College
-4.0249
7
7
12
18
83
33
126
108
Penn State
-4.0008
12
4
16
15
142
38
127
162
Clemson
-3.7874
9
6
14
16
101
46
128
177
Pepperdine
-3.77726
11
5
17
12
242
128
129
119
UC Irvine
-3.7071
8
8
16
14
213
202
130
135
Long Beach State
-3.69098
7
11
16
16
5
83
131
115
VMI
-3.64911
6
11
14
15
127
195
132
118
East Tennessee State
-3.58593
10
5
19
11
126
213
133
127
Chattanooga
-3.4765
11
7
19
12
232
219
134
183
Cornell
-3.3255
8
8
16
14
175
140
135
130
Lafayette
-3.23538
10
5
19
10
128
198
136
102
St. Bonaventure
-3.21175
8
6
15
14
166
100
137
165
Vermont
-3.16689
7
8
16
13
211
263
138
149
Bowling Green
-3.12214
10
3
18
11
286
173
139
114
New Mexico State
-3.03635
9
9
19
12
241
313
140
158
Canisius
-3.00535
8
7
17
12
84
170
141
129
Portland
-2.94169
11
6
17
13
255
156
142
120
San Diego
-2.79764
9
9
14
16
157
95
143
136
Texas Tech
-2.79666
10
6
13
18
266
61
144
142
Loyola (IL)
-2.71997
12
4
20
10
251
208
145
124
St. Francis (PA)
-2.69624
9
6
19
10
118
227
146
160
Morehead State
-2.69219
6
12
14
17
156
204
147
173
Albany
-2.52939
8
7
17
12
90
192
148
178
Mercer
-2.52583
9
9
17
14
219
218
149
168
Tulsa
-2.49537
10
5
17
13
188
114
150
156
Akron
-2.40641
10
5
18
13
307
216
151
153
Rutgers
-2.32083
10
7
13
18
27
8
152
147
Norfolk State
-2.23963
10
8
19
12
171
269
153
143
Saint Peter's
-2.1891
8
9
16
15
115
148
154
167
Colgate
-2.16299
6
11
14
17
59
133
155
139
Elon
-2.15563
10
7
18
13
250
160
156
144
American
-2.04324
9
7
17
13
61
125
157
150
Texas Southern
-1.91541
6
10
19
12
1
239
158
161
Cal Poly
-1.91336
8
6
16
12
154
154
159
137
New Hampshire
-1.80361
8
8
17
12
261
300
160
221
Ball State
-1.7862
7
6
15
14
234
136
161
174
Florida State
-1.77441
9
7
14
17
144
55
162
159
St. Francis (NY)
-1.74834
9
8
18
13
192
259
163
184
North Florida
-1.68836
9
9
18
13
223
286
164
148
UNC Wilmington
-1.54587
9
6
16
13
73
99
165
145
Monmouth
-1.45945
7
8
16
15
108
162
166
189
Rider
-1.36858
10
6
19
12
125
169
167
170
Kent State
-1.29243
10
5
18
13
277
168
168
151
Belmont
-1.27823
10
6
17
12
179
172
169
155
Tennessee Tech
-1.26508
9
8
16
14
248
228
170
154
UT Arlington
-1.15638
9
6
17
13
190
171
171
166
Western Michigan
-1.15571
10
5
17
14
284
149
172
176
High Point
-1.1113
12
4
20
10
281
279
173
179
Auburn
-1.08441
9
6
14
17
167
64
174
169
UC Davis
-0.8979
12
3
19
10
328
277
175
133
Army
-0.89539
10
5
17
12
293
253
176
172
UNC Asheville
-0.85219
7
7
16
13
314
304
177
185
Missouri
-0.79943
7
8
11
20
65
30
178
164
Texas State
-0.71836
9
5
18
11
337
309
179
163
Samford
-0.68855
7
12
14
17
236
237
180
157
Dartmouth
-0.5989
6
7
13
15
159
130
181
146
Tulane
-0.57343
12
4
18
12
313
225
182
200
USC
-0.54445
9
7
13
17
110
68
183
201
Quinnipiac
-0.53236
8
7
16
13
215
217
184
175
George Mason
-0.41735
6
9
11
19
54
65
185
171
Virginia Tech
-0.30815
8
7
11
20
229
53
186
206
UL Monroe
-0.26661
9
6
18
13
308
301
187
181
Radford
-0.22019
10
7
18
13
317
315
188
219
DePaul
-0.21559
9
8
11
20
98
31
189
199
Detroit
-0.17633
8
9
15
16
238
177
190
215
Bryant
-0.17418
6
7
15
14
60
179
191
182
Incarnate Word
-0.16688
8
4
19
9
323
348
192
190
NJIT
-0.15411
9
9
17
12
63
297
193
152
Northern Kentucky
-0.12482
6
10
15
14
119
246
194
196
Saint Joseph's
-0.00116
6
8
13
17
28
77
195
193
Boston University
0.04065
7
8
14
15
114
157
196
210
James Madison
0.15798
9
8
16
15
102
80
197
187
Florida Gulf Coast
0.2391
11
6
19
11
282
312
198
186
Charleston Southern
0.30515
8
7
16
13
297
308
199
180
SIU-Edwardsville
0.32205
7
8
12
15
338
280
200
195
Oral Roberts
0.32866
8
8
16
14
149
257
201
203
Washington State
0.37021
8
7
12
18
85
57
202
211
Eastern Illinois
0.45744
10
6
16
13
202
197
203
192
Wright State
0.56071
10
7
17
13
162
184
204
191
Air Force
0.78957
8
7
14
15
341
278
205
218
Northern Illinois
0.88371
7
6
13
16
269
138
206
194
Hawaii
0.94522
13
5
19
13
331
281
207
238
Middle Tennessee
0.9512
9
7
16
15
247
221
208
188
Utah State
1.00287
9
7
15
15
258
203
209
216
Lehigh
1.07758
7
8
14
15
137
129
210
207
Princeton
1.08114
7
9
13
17
174
159
211
198
Idaho
1.14812
7
7
15
14
309
307
212
208
Maryland-Eastern Shore
1.20078
8
9
17
14
25
209
213
202
Oakland
1.28005
5
12
13
18
14
115
214
223
Manhattan
1.35013
7
8
13
16
181
151
215
205
Hartford
1.52073
8
7
16
13
209
248
216
220
Northern Arizona
1.60566
7
9
16
15
136
241
217
209
Denver
1.87044
7
10
14
15
210
252
218
226
Campbell
2.01521
7
9
15
16
256
271
219
247
Montana
2.03036
6
8
15
14
218
295
220
197
Missouri State
2.11537
8
8
13
17
260
143
221
222
Gardner-Webb
2.13583
11
6
18
13
302
290
222
258
Robert Morris
2.1598
7
9
14
16
53
153
223
251
Bucknell
2.2109
7
10
14
17
116
164
224
214
Sacred Heart
2.30327
7
10
14
17
208
249
225
243
Western Carolina
2.3058
8
9
14
17
216
161
226
255
UAB
2.4387
7
9
14
17
122
165
227
233
South Dakota
2.46504
8
9
16
15
239
289
228
240
Duquesne
2.47851
6
8
10
19
276
111
229
249
Fresno State
2.52617
8
9
14
17
245
194
230
212
Towson
2.53156
8
9
13
18
243
163
231
231
Holy Cross
2.59988
6
8
13
15
198
189
232
236
Winthrop
2.63412
7
8
14
15
335
325
233
225
UMass Lowell
2.6571
8
8
14
15
77
174
234
234
Sacramento State
2.72488
9
6
16
13
306
310
235
229
Weber State
2.778
6
9
14
15
237
288
236
269
Indiana State
2.7879
8
8
13
17
203
126
237
237
Bradley
2.81531
6
11
11
20
226
150
238
204
Florida International
2.82643
8
8
15
16
249
260
239
242
UC Riverside
2.88784
8
8
14
16
279
236
240
235
Fairleigh Dickinson
2.92743
7
8
14
15
134
215
241
254
Southeastern Louisiana
2.97442
5
11
15
17
36
255
242
246
Santa Clara
3.08416
7
10
12
18
70
108
243
213
Florida Atlantic
3.14932
7
7
14
15
275
264
244
244
CSU Bakersfield
3.24974
4
12
14
17
272
347
245
262
Alabama State
3.2627
7
5
18
9
336
351
246
248
Southern Illinois
3.33334
7
10
11
20
295
187
247
259
IPFW
3.40958
8
9
13
16
327
321
248
217
Ohio
3.42922
5
8
10
19
224
113
249
239
Southeast Missouri State
3.54954
7
10
12
17
278
251
250
261
South Florida
3.60792
7
10
12
19
150
131
251
224
LIU Brooklyn
3.62937
5
10
11
18
141
199
252
256
Northern Colorado
3.7463
8
7
15
14
329
333
253
250
Siena
4.04181
6
9
11
18
180
158
254
228
Omaha
4.05667
7
9
13
16
291
294
255
252
Youngstown State
4.07098
9
10
14
17
273
270
256
270
North Dakota State
4.0853
11
5
17
12
320
318
257
227
College of Charleston
4.11678
5
12
10
21
45
89
258
272
Nevada
4.1492
6
9
11
19
296
222
259
273
Pennsylvania
4.18356
3
8
9
19
143
109
260
278
Northwestern State
4.21245
6
8
15
14
259
331
261
241
North Dakota
4.21545
6
9
14
16
194
250
262
265
Howard
4.31504
8
9
15
16
287
316
263
266
Pacific
4.32801
9
8
12
18
311
145
264
260
East Carolina
4.49732
7
9
12
19
305
214
265
302
Mount St. Mary's
4.60595
6
9
12
17
39
142
266
281
Navy
4.60825
7
9
12
18
169
180
267
275
Fordham
4.6223
5
9
9
20
173
96
268
271
The Citadel
4.63083
7
9
12
17
299
261
269
274
CS Fullerton
4.69601
8
8
13
18
285
235
270
253
Mississippi State
4.73582
7
8
9
22
312
88
271
263
Lamar
4.8033
8
7
14
16
345
326
272
230
Arkansas State
4.90808
6
8
12
17
254
240
273
257
Houston
4.97946
7
8
12
18
289
230
274
268
UMKC
5.00758
5
13
12
19
184
296
275
276
Houston Baptist
5.0247
6
7
13
15
346
341
276
282
IUPUI
5.14349
6
11
12
18
37
134
277
285
Miami (OH)
5.22806
6
9
10
21
253
132
278
277
Southern
5.3112
5
12
15
17
214
344
279
291
Portland State
5.31336
8
6
14
14
288
293
280
264
Delaware State
5.31407
6
9
14
17
129
267
281
279
Hampton
5.35343
7
8
14
15
182
254
282
294
Loyola Marymount
5.44649
4
13
7
23
88
76
283
287
Drexel
5.60722
3
12
7
22
131
94
284
245
Furman
5.68733
4
11
9
20
138
166
285
288
Arkansas-Little Rock
5.72361
6
9
11
19
294
258
286
286
Fairfield
5.8422
5
10
10
20
123
147
287
267
Seattle
5.89541
7
8
14
14
318
340
288
284
New Orleans
5.89725
5
6
14
13
270
335
289
232
Appalachian State
6.02008
4
9
10
19
67
135
290
296
Brown
6.03306
8
8
13
18
206
190
291
297
Saint Louis
6.19611
8
8
11
20
235
116
292
280
Niagara
6.20383
3
11
8
21
47
121
293
298
UCF
6.31737
8
7
12
17
280
183
294
289
Grand Canyon
6.64595
10
8
16
15
321
336
295
290
Wagner
6.82497
4
11
9
20
124
186
296
295
CS Northridge
6.82694
4
13
9
23
145
178
297
283
Jackson State
7.13705
4
12
13
18
100
328
298
321
Troy
7.24293
6
7
12
17
334
299
299
313
Lipscomb
7.27604
7
9
13
16
271
306
300
299
Morgan State
7.27971
3
14
10
20
29
220
301
303
Longwood
7.28225
5
12
11
20
186
247
302
327
Delaware
7.30141
2
13
6
23
23
90
303
310
South Alabama
7.31571
4
11
9
22
283
243
304
293
Marshall
7.45239
4
12
9
22
205
207
305
305
UT San Antonio
7.55368
7
7
12
17
333
303
306
300
UIC
7.70441
5
13
9
22
178
210
307
315
Utah Valley
7.92056
6
9
13
16
225
317
308
309
Texas A&M-CC
8.1258
7
7
13
17
344
330
309
320
Southern Utah
8.38805
3
11
9
20
200
287
310
304
Liberty
8.44459
6
11
11
20
348
338
311
307
UNC Greensboro
8.50207
5
13
8
23
298
233
312
301
Prairie View
8.63601
2
14
11
20
52
323
313
292
McNeese State
8.75692
6
8
13
16
316
343
314
317
North Texas
8.76263
7
8
11
19
324
266
315
314
Milwaukee
8.82271
5
12
9
21
103
175
316
319
Austin Peay
8.95979
5
11
9
21
231
182
317
318
Bethune-Cookman
9.05594
4
12
11
20
310
342
318
308
Jacksonville State
9.17201
8
10
11
20
290
232
319
323
North Carolina A&T
9.21552
4
13
10
21
199
284
320
311
Rice
9.39924
4
10
8
22
330
234
321
306
Drake
9.4544
3
13
6
24
89
98
322
336
Loyola (MD)
9.48608
6
9
9
20
86
124
323
326
Montana State
9.75468
3
14
7
24
187
205
324
312
Western Illinois
10.0311
7
8
10
17
303
282
325
324
Marist
10.0543
1
15
5
25
95
137
326
316
Idaho State
10.1858
4
12
8
22
301
298
327
322
South Carolina State
10.2243
4
13
10
21
91
268
328
328
Chicago State
10.4701
4
14
9
22
164
256
329
331
Abilene Christian
10.6776
8
7
12
19
351
332
330
332
Tennessee State
10.7156
3
15
6
25
207
152
331
334
Coppin State
10.844
1
15
7
22
4
139
332
329
UMBC
10.9827
2
13
6
23
165
196
333
337
Kennesaw State
11.085
5
12
10
21
133
276
334
330
UT Pan American
11.6462
6
10
10
20
292
320
335
325
Maine
11.7319
1
14
5
24
13
105
336
341
Binghamton
12.1784
2
16
5
26
193
212
337
338
Arkansas-Pine Bluff
12.4516
3
13
10
22
78
311
338
333
Southern Miss
12.6407
5
9
8
21
263
245
339
335
Central Connecticut State
12.8578
2
15
5
26
148
200
340
343
Alabama A&M
12.9999
3
10
9
19
230
339
341
342
Presbyterian
13.4254
5
12
8
23
304
275
342
340
Stetson
13.689
5
11
9
21
332
337
343
339
Savannah State
13.8294
4
11
9
21
87
262
344
344
Jacksonville
14.2086
6
12
9
22
322
324
345
345
San Jose State
15.9872
2
14
3
27
257
193
346
346
Nicholls State
16.5055
3
9
7
21
262
319
347
348
Alcorn State
17.539
2
13
7
23
227
346
348
347
Central Arkansas
18.591
0
14
2
27
161
244
349
350
Mississippi Valley State
22.5119
2
13
5
26
43
285
350
349
Florida A&M
23.1684
0
15
1
28
172
273
351
351
Grambling State
24.3805
2
11
5
23
69
322

Overrated Teams

I hate to say that Wichita State is overrated, but they are, even with a 14-2 record and no bad losses. They haven't beaten a team in my top 25, and lost to the only one they have faced. Their best win is against Seton Hall, which is currently #33, and they have a loss to #43 George Washington, which is a bubble team at this point.

Kansas is somehow in the top 10 of the AP poll still, mostly due to a 13-2 record and name recognition, and they are pretty good most nights, but when they play bad, they play really bad. Their first loss came by 32 points against Kentucky, a large margin even against a great team, but the second came by 25 points at Temple, which is a decent team, but not even close to the tournament picture right now at #93.

Iowa State is another Big 12 team that is a little overrated, sitting at #11 in the AP. They have lost only twice, both at neutral sites to good teams, but they've had some odd struggles, such as beating #278 Southern by only 10, or #213 Oakland by 11. They are still a solid tourney team, but they're not quite as good as people think.

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